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Re: Car Parking Fines

katy'sClan

2013-02-22 21:50:41

fwh wrote:
No matter the legality of the "fine" which is a misuse of the word what do the signs say? If they state 2 hours parking and you stayed 6 - no matter how much you spent then you are in the wrong. Private car parks cannot issue fines but they can quite legally charge you for overstaying the time allowed. If they had a clamping policy then providing they operated it in accordance with the regulations you would be trying to get the charges refunded.

fwh

I think you will find you talking utter twoddle here about clamping...that particular practice was banned in 2012 on private land, which in this case is as it is a private carpark

These Parking tickets are not legally binding and they can't send the Bailiffs round as only a court can send in the bailiffs for non payment of 'FINES'...this is not a fine it is an 'invitation to pay' and they play on the fact that you entered into a contract when you entered the Car park...in this case they seemed to think that the person entered into a contract to park for 6 hours free...so its a free car park and it was entered into a contract to park for free...so they go over the 6 allotted hours and they will charge £95!!!

The first port of call should be to ask for a breakdown of the Parking Charges and proof that by parking in there 'Free' Car park for a hour more than they allow it cost them £95...as they can only persue through the courts any loos they made by you parking there...ie if they charged £1 an hour then they could persue you for the £1 they lost for your car being in that space as they could argue that another car could have parked there and they would have made an extra £1 revenue!!!

Secondly they can't hold responsible the registered keeper of the car as they have no proof that, that person was actually driving and parked in there car park...they can only pursue the driver of the vehicle as that will be who made the 'Contract' by parking there...

Thirdly you could log a complaint to the DVLA for releasing details if it is not made clear in the letter you receive that they request you to give them the driver details of the car that particular day (like they do in a lawful speeding camera enforcement) it is my understanding that The DVLA release the data on the strict understanding that the Private Parking Company will request the driver's details from the registered Keeper. If they fail to do so and simply target the Registered Keeper with threats etc then the Registered Keeper data has been unlawfully used...

G24 are renowned for there Bully Boy tactics and TBH they should be ignored, letters binned and given no more thought as they are just lowlife...

doe

2013-02-22 22:10:23

Re: Car Parking Fines

fwh wrote:
No matter the legality of the "fine" which is a misuse of the word what do the signs say? If they state 2 hours parking and you stayed 6 - no matter how much you spent then you are in the wrong. Private car parks cannot issue fines but they can quite legally charge you for overstaying the time allowed. If they had a clamping policy then providing they operated it in accordance with the regulations you would be trying to get the charges refunded.

fwh

They have no legal standing whatsoever. The people who run them use bully boy tactics and it is well known that there is no need to engage with them and no need to pay the 'fines'.

Their 'systems' for recording how long people have stayed in a car park are dubious and inaccurate to say the least and they often report people who have stayed for the two hours 'free parking' as having stayed three hours or more just to make money and s c a m people - they deserve to be treated with the same 'courtesy'.

There is loads of information about this on Martin Lewis's site and other sites that cover similar types of dubious money making and money collecting practices,

These so called FINES are totally unenforceable, there is no need to engage with these scammers at all, shove everything on the bin, nothing will happen.

fwh

2013-02-28 16:58:08

Re: Car Parking Fines

These so called FINES are totally unenforceable,

Not true. The owners of the land can legally make the use of their car park conditional and would be within their rights to require payment of a penalty charge from anyone who broke those conditions.
Where it goes wrong is the method that is employed to recover any charges. It also becomes a problem in that to legally recover the charge could probably be self defeating as people would no longer use the car park or the businesses.
As I said before if they clamped vehicles, providing they did it in accordance with the law then they would be within their rights and whilst people may not be happy they would accept it.
I do wonder why people feel they have a right to ignore the rules and then complain when they are required to pay.

fwh

doe

2013-02-28 18:24:09

Re: Car Parking Fines

Clamping by PPC's has been banned since 2012 so I am not sure how that is relevant anyway tbh. The Internet is littered with story's about these company's and their bully boy tactics.

They do not use equitable and fair systems for issuing these 'invoices' (as they call them) which is the whole premise law, hence someone five hours over the limit will not be fined and someone one minute over the limit will be - another reason why the courts don't want to entertain or engage with them, they have no interest in dealing with company's like G24, as the 'invoices' are for a totally disproportionate to the parking costs, also the signage is often either obscure or not there at all.

Personally I would go with Martin Lewis' advice on these so called 'invoices' if I was Betty or Betty's mate.

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