Hi Dazbo

Yep definitely no premium as i've been able to select seats 2a and 2b as standard seats. I hope it's still 33" seat pitch and seatback IFE?

Thanks Anthony

Imbrugliasboy wrote:

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

Imbrugliasboy,

When was it you last flew with TCX? They now only have the the ex My Travel aircraft in their fleet with the downstairs toilets. Having said they, by the time you fly, they'll have one of the former Bmi A332's in their fleet that has main deck toilets so they'll be back to having two slightly different configurations. That's probably why you don't recognise the seat plan and it's probably in all economy.

Darren

Hi Dazbo

I flew the same route on the 26th Jan this year. I've edited my original post.
To me it looks like the normal plan but with economy throughout and no premium seating?

Anthony

It is the ex bmi A330, it is based at Manchester operating Cuba, Mexico, St Lucia, Barbados and Antigua. No seat back IFE and 31"-33" seat pitch

BEfreeTODAY wrote:

Imbrugliasboy wrote:

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

Imbrugliasboy,

When was it you last flew with TCX? They now only have the the ex My Travel aircraft in their fleet with the downstairs toilets. Having said they, by the time you fly, they'll have one of the former Bmi A332's in their fleet that has main deck toilets so they'll be back to having two slightly different configurations. That's probably why you don't recognise the seat plan and it's probably in all economy.

Darren

Hi Dazbo

I flew the same route on the 26th Jan this year. I've edited my original post.
To me it looks like the normal plan but with economy throughout and no premium seating?

Anthony

It is the ex bmi A330, it is based at Manchester operating Cuba, Mexico, St Lucia, Barbados and Antigua. No seat back IFE and 30" seat pitch

How very disapointing.
They really should let people know this before they book. The brochures say 33" and IFE throughout.
Oh well, at least we get 2 weeks in the sun to get over it!

Anthony

How very disapointing.
They really should let people know this before they book. The brochures say 33" and IFE throughout.
Oh well, at least we get 2 weeks in the sun to get over it!

Anthony

Did you book via travel agent or online? The only reason I ask is that the travel agent should have told you because its on the important information and like wise on the website it is in the important information section of the booking page.

"Flight: In flight entertainment will be on overhead screens, there are no seat back TVs on this aircraft. Premium cabin is not available on this flight."

It's not 30" by the way its 31-33" a typo on my behalf.

BEfreeTODAY wrote:

How very disapointing.
They really should let people know this before they book. The brochures say 33" and IFE throughout.
Oh well, at least we get 2 weeks in the sun to get over it!

Anthony

Did you book via travel agent or online? The only reason I ask is that the travel agent should have told you because its on the important information and like wise on the website it is in the important information section of the booking page.

"Flight: In flight entertainment will be on overhead screens, there are no seat back TVs on this aircraft. Premium cabin is not available on this flight."

It's not 30" by the way its 31-33" a typo on my behalf.

Travel agent. Just checked the small print of our confirmation and it states no seatback IFE haha!
I'm not overly fussed about the seatback IFE as we travel with tablets but i'm happy the seat pitch will be more or less as expected.
Thanks for the info.

Anthony

Anybody know if TCX plan to put seat back IFE into the ex BMI A330's?

Thanks

Z.J.C

No that is why they are making sure people know

That's a shame was looking at booking on one of there long hauls next year but I won't be now.

BEfreeTODAY wrote:

No that is why they are making sure people know

Just completed a dummy booking on the Thomas cook website for my flight dates. it didn't give me the info about the IFE etc under the important info.it states
"IMPORTANT INFORMATION: To get the latest flight and accommodation updates relevant to your booking seeSingle parents, unaccompanied children or children accompanied by an adult who is not the parent or a legal guardian should be aware that entry requirements into Mexico require specific documentary evidence of parental responsibility. For Full details visit http://www.fco.gov.uk under visa and travel advice. Bookings that do not follow this requirement may not be accepted for travel"

Very strange?

Anthony

Not strange at all. There are similar requirements in place for non-EU citizens coming into Britain as well as UK and EU citizens entering Britain from a country outside of the EU. More and more countries are doing this for two reasons:

1) Trying to crack down on child trafficking and illegal adoptions.

2) Trying to prevent non-custodial parents from removing a child from the country without the consent of the parent with custody. Once a child has been taken to another jurisdiction it is almost impossible for the courts to enforce an order and get the child returned to the country of residence of the parent with residency or custodial rights.

Airlines know that if they fly someone into a country without that necessary documentation and who is then refused entry as a result, then it's the airlines responsibility to get them back to the place they departed from and at the airlines expense. From their perspective they don't want to fly anybody anywhere where they might be refused entry.

SM

SMa wrote:

Not strange at all. There are similar requirements in place for non-EU citizens coming into Britain as well as UK and EU citizens entering Britain from a country outside of the EU. More and more countries are doing this for two reasons:

1) Trying to crack down on child trafficking and illegal adoptions.

2) Trying to prevent non-custodial parents from removing a child from the country without the consent of the parent with custody. Once a child has been taken to another jurisdiction it is almost impossible for the courts to enforce an order and get the child returned to the country of residence of the parent with residency or custodial rights.

Airlines know that if they fly someone into a country without that necessary documentation and who is then refused entry as a result, then it's the airlines responsibility to get them back to the place they departed from and at the airlines expense. From their perspective they don't want to fly anybody anywhere where they might be refused entry.

SM

Wires crossed me thinks.
I was saying it was strange that they aren't declaring the lack of seatback IFE in the important information section. I just copied and pasted what was in the important information section to demonstrate.
Sorry for the confusion

Anthony

Imbrugliasboy wrote:

SMa wrote:

Not strange at all. There are similar requirements in place for non-EU citizens coming into Britain as well as UK and EU citizens entering Britain from a country outside of the EU. More and more countries are doing this for two reasons:

1) Trying to crack down on child trafficking and illegal adoptions.

2) Trying to prevent non-custodial parents from removing a child from the country without the consent of the parent with custody. Once a child has been taken to another jurisdiction it is almost impossible for the courts to enforce an order and get the child returned to the country of residence of the parent with residency or custodial rights.

Airlines know that if they fly someone into a country without that necessary documentation and who is then refused entry as a result, then it's the airlines responsibility to get them back to the place they departed from and at the airlines expense. From their perspective they don't want to fly anybody anywhere where they might be refused entry.

SM

Wires crossed me thinks.
I was saying it was strange that they aren't declaring the lack of seatback IFE in the important information section. I just copied and pasted what was in the important information section to demonstrate.
Sorry for the confusion

Anthony

It looks like a fault on the website, as you usually click on the important information, and it opens in a new window and brings any errata up.

bripat wrote:

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

bripat,

BHX-NBE-BHX (TCX5208/9) are operated by Boeing 757-200. It's the first flight outbound for that aircraft that day. The aircraft comes in the evening before then night-stops.

Darren

Hi Darren just been on Thomas cook site to book extra legroom and on the plan it shows 38 seats ? I booked 26a /26b is it still a 757-200 im a bit lost to what aircraft it is thanks bripat

still not sure what plane I am on should have said 38 rows .....would have had lots of legroom with (38 seats !!)

Hi Darren, can i just ask why the below flight is operated by condor on behalf of thomas cook, also what is the leg room on these flights , is there IFE
.Any other differences from the Thomas Cook aircraft?

Condor Flugdienst
Condor Flugdienst DE 0026
Mon 09-Sep Depart: 10:50
Manchester - Ringway International Airport(MAN)
Terminal: 1Economy
Mon 09-Sep Arrive: 15:00

bripat,

Airbus A321-200 have 38 rows, the Boeing 757-200 40 rows. It makes little difference to be honest, they have the same seat pitch and configuration other than the position of a couple of seats.

What are your exact dates of travel? I'll check what is currently assigned on the system. The last time I checked, it was listed at a 757-200 but that might not have been for your exact dates.

Darren

Grahamy,

Condor is the German sister airline of Thomas Cook and part of Thomas Cook group. Aircraft are sometimes swapped between the two airlines to cover when aircraft are in maintenance or when extra capacity is required for example. Where is the flight to so I can check on what is listed? Assuming it's a short haul flight, there's not really any difference from a passengers perspective.

Darren

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

bripat,

Airbus A321-200 have 38 rows, the Boeing 757-200 40 rows. It makes little difference to be honest, they have the same seat pitch and configuration other than the position of a couple of seats.

What are your exact dates of travel? I'll check what is currently assigned on the system. The last time I checked, it was listed at a 757-200 but that might not have been for your exact dates.

Darren

16th june east midlands dep 0600 tcx5208/9 thanks bripat

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

Grahamy,

Condor is the German sister airline of Thomas Cook and part of Thomas Cook group. Aircraft are sometimes swapped between the two airlines to cover when aircraft are in maintenance or when extra capacity is required for example. Where is the flight to so I can check on what is listed? Assuming it's a short haul flight, there's not really any difference from a passengers perspective.

Darren

Sorry Darren full flight details below.

Condor Flugdienst
Condor Flugdienst DE 0026
Mon 09-Sep Depart: 10:50
Manchester - Ringway International Airport(MAN)
Terminal: 1Economy
Mon 09-Sep Arrive: 15:00
Sanford - Orlando Central Florida Regional Airport(SFB)
Meal: Meal
Total flight duration:9hr 10min. - 04233 miles.

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

Grahamy,

Condor is the German sister airline of Thomas Cook and part of Thomas Cook group. Aircraft are sometimes swapped between the two airlines to cover when aircraft are in maintenance or when extra capacity is required for example. Where is the flight to so I can check on what is listed? Assuming it's a short haul flight, there's not really any difference from a passengers perspective.

Darren

Sorry Darren full flight details below.

Condor Flugdienst
Condor Flugdienst DE 0026
Mon 09-Sep Depart: 10:50
Manchester - Ringway International Airport(MAN)
Terminal: 1Economy
Mon 09-Sep Arrive: 15:00
Sanford - Orlando Central Florida Regional Airport(SFB)
Meal: Meal
Total flight duration:9hr 10min. - 04233 miles.