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Surely 11CDE are in the centre? so the emergency exit regs dont apply?
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They are in the centre but they do apply as they are the only seats in that row and they are adjacent to the doors.
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Hiya,

Could anyone tell me which aircraftI will be flying on on flight TOM2476 on 27th June MAN-TFS

Thank you
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Hello,

Just a note was speaking to someone who recently flew on G-OBYG and said its currently configured in a three class cabin style.

Premium at the front
Comfort in the middle (33")
Regular in the rear (29")

All seats have IFE screens, this is the way its been fitted when flying to Phucket.

Wondering if they will reconfigure in time for May passengers.

Z.J.C
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They must have flown on the standby aircraft (the standby aircraft has to have the highest number of seats of the fleet for obvious reasons)

I can't see why Thomson won't change the configuration, they won't plan to use an aircraft that doesn't meet advertised standards of 33" and a minimum of 36" in premium.
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Hey

I was wondering if it was stand by as you don't tend to see That many Thomson 767s flying out of Manchester at minute.

Z.J.C
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z.j.c wrote:
Hello,

Just a note was speaking to someone who recently flew on G-OBYG and said its currently configured in a three class cabin style.

Premium at the front
Comfort in the middle (33")
Regular in the rear (29")

All seats have IFE screens, this is the way its been fitted when flying to Phucket.

Wondering if they will reconfigure in time for May passengers.

Z.J.C


The ex-Tom 767 as far as I am aware all have 31" pitch. We travelled to Cuba last month on G-OBYH and that was standard 31" throughout. I think that some of the 757 are being reconfigured with extra legroom at the front.
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OBYG has been used on a number of occasions lately ex Manchester,including yesterday to Cuba - I certainly wouldn't be amused with either 31" or (God forbid!) 29" legroom - there is no way that it is a "standby" plane in the true sense of the word because of the frequency of usage over the past few weeks.Thomson are very wrong if they are fobbing off travellers on this plane with "technical difficulties caused the substitution!!"
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Chappers. wrote:
z.j.c wrote:
Hello,

Just a note was speaking to someone who recently flew on G-OBYG and said its currently configured in a three class cabin style.

Premium at the front
Comfort in the middle (33")
Regular in the rear (29")

All seats have IFE screens, this is the way its been fitted when flying to Phucket.

Wondering if they will reconfigure in time for May passengers.

Z.J.C


The ex-Tom 767 as far as I am aware all have 31" pitch. We travelled to Cuba last month on G-OBYH and that was standard 31" throughout. I think that some of the 757 are being reconfigured with extra legroom at the front.


Chappers;

What was there reason when you got on for the reduction in Pitch? This has happened to me in the past and they said it was for technical reasons.

brewerdave;

Exactly Thomson are promising customers 33" and then subbing them onto YG which they know full well doesn't have the seat pitch promised.

I would be interested to know if they plan on refitting it out to 33" in time for May when it will be covering Dreamliners or if they have no intention to do so and will instead call it technical reasons.
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The original FCA had a technical issue. In fairness to Thompson, the replacement was already waiting at the gate and we were informed of the substitution at check-in.

The exTOM are not as bad as some make out. Although "only 31" og pitch, this is the same as most longhaul scheduled carriers (TOM also have the slimline seats so it seems slightly greater). There was just enough room for me at 6'3" although the 2-4-2 seating is quite narrow and the window seats are further imposed by the curve of the bulkhead. Don't get me wrong, the FCA aircraft is a much nicer experience but the TOM are quite adequate for the flights when they get substituted.
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All the Thomson 767's are in 291 configuration (even g-obyh) which is as z.j.c. Describes, only the back cabin is in economy configuration. That will change in a few weeks ready for the summer programme and there will be some all economy 328 aircraft, but not yet.
Even though the standby aircraft is being used more frequently doesn't mean that is not a standby aircraft(if you use the AA with your car more frequently doesn't change their intended role!) it is a testament to the company that they have a standby aircraft rather than delay/cancel or sub out flights because of technical reasons. The frequent technical problems are also not completely down to Thomson, they knew the 767's were comming to the end of their scheduled life and did their part in ordering the 787's. the company are managing a bad situation as best they can. Many airlines have just cancelled flights that were due to be operated by the 787, Thomson have not.
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Chappers, the issue isn't really about last minute subs. for genuine tech. issues ;)
It's about Thomson's medium term plan to replace the departed G-OOAN and the late arriving 787 Dreamliners.
The question I haven't really had answered yet,is are people being told in advance of the use of G-OBYG and has it been converted to full long haul configuration (or some strange middle ground as described by z.j.c)
I have a vested interest cos I'm flying in 4 weeks to Dom. Rep!

EDIT -Sorry posted same time as previous post which answers the query partially.
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BY-TOM-AMM-FCA wrote:
All the Thomson 767's are in 291 configuration (even g-obyh) which is as z.j.c. Describes, only the back cabin is in economy configuration. That will change in a few weeks ready for the summer programme and there will be some all economy 328 aircraft, but not yet.
Even though the standby aircraft is being used more frequently doesn't mean that is not a standby aircraft(if you use the AA with your car more frequently doesn't change their intended role!) it is a testament to the company that they have a standby aircraft rather than delay/cancel or sub out flights because of technical reasons. The frequent technical problems are also not completely down to Thomson, they knew the 767's were comming to the end of their scheduled life and did their part in ordering the 787's. the company are managing a bad situation as best they can. Many airlines have just cancelled flights that were due to be operated by the 787, Thomson have not.


BY-TOM-AMM-FCA;

Do you know how many of the exTOM 767's will be config to cover for 787 flights? Will they retain the 291 config or be changed?
I know on the Thomson blog they are still promising 33" in Economy. Also heard something about changing the FCA Config to 2-4-2 is this correct?

Thanks

Z.J.C
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Worth remembering that to change the configuration of an aircraft is not as straightforward as it might appear. Some seats will be removed, the remainder repositioned and then the fun and games start with the overhead panels, with the oxygen masks and lighting, have to be repositioned. When this is sorted the seat back in flight entertainment has to be reconfigured. This is not a quick process and is usually factored in to a scheduled maintenance slot.

As an aside don't expect to see the Dreamliner anytime soon.
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Yes they will be reconfigured, Thomson do not plan any customer to travel in a short haul seat pitch- it's false advertising. Any flight operated by either a Nordic or short haul configured will because of last minute problems.
The ex-FCA can't hold many more seats so they will not be changed 2-4-2 Dazbo has explained this quite a few times. g-ooan was always leaving and the 787s would not have been operating long haul at the moment so AN leaving has nothing to do with any substitutions over the last few weeks.
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BY-TOM-AMM-FCA wrote:
Yes they will be reconfigured, Thomson do not plan any customer to travel in a short haul seat pitch- it's false advertising. Any flight operated by either a Nordic or short haul configured will because of last minute problems.
The ex-FCA can't hold many more seats so they will not be changed 2-4-2 Dazbo has explained this quite a few times. g-ooan was always leaving and the 787s would not have been operating long haul at the moment so AN leaving has nothing to do with any substitutions over the last few weeks.


Thanks for confirming in regards to the FCA I had read it earlier on on Thomson's blog that's why I asked the question.

Thanks

Z.J.C
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First time long haul. How do you get movies and stuff on a flight to Mexico in May ?. Do you contact Thompson,or order them on the aircraft itself ? Do young kids have a choice of film to watch ?
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Whomenever, you get a choice of quite a few films/TV programmes/games free throughout the aircraft with the option of upgrading when actually on the aircraft to give you some premium films and games PLUS the upgrade allows you to pause/rewind etc -think the upgrade is £5 per person.If you are in Premium you get the upgrade included.
The actual films being shown in May will be known late in April and can be found through this thread by looking at the info posted by Dazbo.
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