Thomsons don't know what type of aircraft their July flights will be on. They will be as in the dark as everyone else as to when they will get their 787s. They are making it up as they go along!

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone knows if G-OBYH has been refitted noticed its back in the UK and operating long haul service

Thanks
Z.J.C

Need a hol wrote:

when I called Thomsons a few weeks ago to book my outbound seats I was told it would be a 767!

Z.J.C wrote:

When I asked what aircraft im flying out on as they had told another passenger returning on my flight it was a 767 they told me its still a 787

The chances of it being a 787-8 by July are nil at this time. Thomson need to run them on short / medium haul for 2 months prior to longhaul introduction which means they'll need to be delivered by the end of this month at the latest for a July start. That is looking extremely unlikely at the moment so I would bank on your flights being on a 767-300/ER. This is all subject to what happens at Boeing and is out of Thomsons hands. They have to wait and see and plan for when things do startbeing delivered.

Darren

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

Need a hol wrote:

when I called Thomsons a few weeks ago to book my outbound seats I was told it would be a 767!

Z.J.C wrote:

When I asked what aircraft im flying out on as they had told another passenger returning on my flight it was a 767 they told me its still a 787

The chances of it being a 787-8 by July are nil at this time. Thomson need to run them on short / medium haul for 2 months prior to longhaul introduction which means they'll need to be delivered by the end of this month at the latest for a July start. That is looking extremely unlikely at the moment so I would bank on your flights being on a 767-300/ER. This is all subject to what happens at Boeing and is out of Thomsons hands. They have to wait and see and plan for when things do startbeing delivered.

Darren

I am expecting a 767 anyways I just wish they would release the information on it being on a 767 as I will be asking to change dates as they have offered may/June passengers to make it easier with work.

Z.J.C

Z.J.C wrote:

I am expecting a 767 anyways I just wish they would release the information on it being on a 767 as I will be asking to change dates as they have offered may/June passengers to make it easier with work

Which they can't do as Thomson themselves are waiting on information from Boeing. The are stuck between a rock and a hard place with this one. You can't pass on information that you don't have yourself.

Darren

Dazbo HT Mod wrote:

Z.J.C wrote:

I am expecting a 767 anyways I just wish they would release the information on it being on a 767 as I will be asking to change dates as they have offered may/June passengers to make it easier with work

Which they can't do as Thomson themselves are waiting on information from Boeing. The are stuck between a rock and a hard place with this one. You can't pass on information that you don't have yourself.

Darren

Yes I fully understand, I can only imagine how fusrrating it must be from Thomsons part waiting so long for the Aircraft and then the grounding happen.

Is a change of aircraft from what you were hoping for really important enough to make it worth the hassle of changing your holiday arrangements and having to re-negotiate your annual leave etc? As a manager, I'm not sure how I would react to such a request on those grounds being put to me, especially if it meant having to re-negotiate cover arrangements that had already been put in place for your original dates.

SM

SMa,

That's the way I view it. For me, while the flight is part of the holiday, it's the bit between the flights that's the most important part. I don't spend 10 hours or more each way on an aircraft for a holiday (well, just a bit of me does!).

Darren

SMa wrote:

Is a change of aircraft from what you were hoping for really important enough to make it worth the hassle of changing your holiday arrangements and having to re-negotiate your annual leave etc? As a manager, I'm not sure how I would react to such a request on those grounds being put to me, especially if it meant having to re-negotiate cover arrangements that had already been put in place for your original dates.

SM

The dates I choose for my holiday were specifically to fly on the 787 however it would be easier for me to fly on a Monday due to the nature of my business. For the benefit of experiencing a 787 I choose to fly the day earlier which did cause some inconvenience with extra staffing I needed to arrange but nothing major.

the reasons behind my wishing to change aircraft are nothing to do with yourself.

For your information I am self employed and I do not need your advice as a "Manager".

Z.J.C

SMa,

That's the way I view it. For me, while the flight is part of the holiday, it's the bit between the flights that's the most important part. I don't spend 10 hours or more each way on an aircraft for a holiday (well, just a bit of me does!).

Darren

Sorry but I disagree stongly. For some, myself included, it matters greatly what plane I'll be flying on. I've been all over the world & been on most aircraft in my time & I have to say the flying experience plays a big part for me.

Had the now almost antiquated 767's actually had a proper cabin re-fit with the new interiors, seats etc then yes that would go along way to pleasing the passengers.

I know it's not all Thomsons fault, but it's a disaster. I'm fed up hearing "a change of aircraft does not constitute a major change" Well I'm sorry it DOES. Yes they can substitute planes at short notice etc, but when they have been hard selling this product like nothing on earth it's a kick in the teeth, especially all the hype over the last year.

Remember many people booked their holidays, chose different airports / cities etc because their flights were advertised as "Dreamliner". I really think Thomson should have waited anyway untill the planes were actually delivered before promising anything.

I have a holiday booked myself end of November, apparently Dreamliner flights but I 'm not going to hold my breath.

gaz68 wrote:

SMa,

That's the way I view it. For me, while the flight is part of the holiday, it's the bit between the flights that's the most important part. I don't spend 10 hours or more each way on an aircraft for a holiday (well, just a bit of me does!).

Darren

Sorry but I disagree stongly. For some, myself included, it matters greatly what plane I'll be flying on. I've been all over the world & been on most aircraft in my time & I have to say the flying experience plays a big part for me.

Had the now almost antiquated 767's actually had a proper cabin re-fit with the new interiors, seats etc then yes that would go along way to pleasing the passengers.

I know it's not all Thomsons fault, but it's a disaster. I'm fed up hearing "a change of aircraft does not constitute a major change" Well I'm sorry it DOES. Yes they can substitute planes at short notice etc, but when they have been hard selling this product like nothing on earth it's a kick in the teeth, especially all the hype over the last year.

Remember many people booked their holidays, chose different airports / cities etc because their flights were advertised as "Dreamliner". I really think Thomson should have waited anyway untill the planes were actually delivered before promising anything.

I have a holiday booked myself end of November, apparently Dreamliner flights but I 'm not going to hold my breath.

Could agre more with you! Thomson wouldn't offer the option to transfer to a different date if they Wernt accepting the fact some people choose specific dates for just dreamliners and would rather fly out on other days.

Z.J.C

Flying out on Thurs TOM104/105 MAN-SFB-MAN. Looked like we were going to be on one of the ex-FCA planes, but just checking this is still the case please?
Online seat reservation seems to show 2-3-2 config, so assume it will be. In Row 18, which looks like it is just in front of the emergency exit seating.
Is it also correct these planes have the new dark blue seat coverings?

TIA

Hi Darren,

Could you tell me the where " tom518 Glasgow-Cancun 6th May" flies in from ie: flight no.
So I can check for any delays.

Thanks for your help

Colin

Merged with existing topic. Dazbo HT Mod

Flowerscroft,

MAN-SFB-MAN (TOM104/5) are scheduled to be operated by an ex-FCA 763 as far as I'm aware. The interiors were refurbished last year and now have the Thomson dark blue leather seat coverings, everything else is the same. Row 18 is 2 rows in front of the emergency exit (row 20).


Standard economy seat (row 31)


Emergency exit row (row 20)

Photos of the original seat covers here.

Darren

colinshear,

The aircraft doesn't operate a flight immediately before and will position up to Glasgow early morning to operate your flight.

Darren

I'm amazed by some of the comments on here. I can understand some people being upset that it won't be the Dreamliner they are flying on, however the plane does not make the holiday. Did you choose your accommodation based on the aircraft you where flying on. A holiday is more about the destination. If it isn't then there will be dreamliner's flying before Thomson elsewhere in the world. This is completely out of Thomson's hands, I'm sure if they could get them in the air before now they would have. As long as they offer suitable alternatives and refund the premium then as far as I am aware they are doing all they can. (they could've said it's out of our control go away, like a certain low cost airline is famous for)..

Anyway now to my question, Darren can you tell me if the TOM 2468 on 23/5 is likely to be a 767 (or a dream liner if they are delivered !!!!) sorry!.

Clearly this is important to you Z.J.C and I hope that the temp staff, or whoever the extra staff are that you are bringing in to cover for you when you are on holiday, are able to accommodate your change of heart. It would be a shame if they can't and you aren't able to get away later in the year. Or if there are further delays with the Dreamliner and that your holiday recedes even further into the future - but as you say that has nothing to do with me. Just as whether I am a manager or a 'manager, has nothing to do with you. I work in a field that clearly has to juggle more factors and work within greater constraints than you do. Just be glad that you don't have to and can change your mind about your holiday plans and presumably cater for your staff doing the same. Enjoy it when you do eventually get to Florida

SM

I know which aircraft I would prefer to be flying on for the next six months and it is not the Dreamliner.

Thanks for all,the info so far but we Had another email today about extras from Thompson. They want to know if we want stuff like more luggage weight and/or prem seats ect. We already booked legroom seats on the flight from Manchester on Tom 194. Anyone else get this stuff sent ? Also asking for passport numbers are well ? Is this normal for longer flight to Mexico ect ???

Feel a mug asking this but never done long flight before ?