Pat, We arrive the 17th January, I am staying until the 25th but hubby staying a few days more until the 29th. Thanks, Yes PM me your mobile, maybe we could meet up somewhere, AT LAST!!!. I've sent you a PM with our Portuguese mobile number. Rosemary did tell me you had an enjoyable meet up earlier on in the year, so hopefully we can do the same. Hope your getting plenty practice in, on the vinho for your next visit just like me Not got a clue what your friend is talking about regards the Bells? take care jayjan