Very upset to learn today that Turkey is going to be even MORE expensive for us all next year! the prime minister has put even more taxes on alcohol (hic hic) and its now the most expensive country in the world to buy raki!!!! beer,,,,,,,wine,,,,,,,,,,,,vodka,,,,,,,,,,,,,spirits.........all gone through the roof price wise!! what the hell is going on? are they tryin to stop peeps from holidaying there? my mate who has a bar in marmaris sais he he won't be able to run it next year coz he would need to price his drinks so high to make a profit and no peeps are gonna pay those prices.
SAD to see turkey go down the pan like this, specially when it's own government has been part maker to it all. makes me sad for the days gone when turkey was cheap as chips. mate of mine said its cheaper to go to europe..brazil...mexico....goa...america than turkey now.
another mate in Icmeler said he is out of there for good now. not just coz of the alcohol tax price hike but its gone bang down hill and lots of bar restaurant owners have brought it down by ripping holidaymakers off by overcharging, rip offs. very sad to see.
need to mention case i forget. my sister had her gold ring valued that she bought from a jewellers in icmeler and turns out the inside of the metal is filled with something to make it weigh more. bad man. she needed that money too now that gold is at high price........i wont name shop unless mods agree.
goodbye to turkey it seems......................
Turkey has not gone down the pan because of this additional tax and nor will it. Turkey is still good value for money in my opinion and it's appeal has not gone away just because it is no longer "cheap as chips". If you can find cheaper holidays in Brazil, Mexico or the USA then go for it if price is all that matters.
As for Turkey putting up taxes well take a look at the UK. Higher taxes (income tax, VAT, national insurance etc) and spending cuts on top of that. It's not pleasant but necessary. We can hardly blame Turkey if it chooses to increase taxes of it's own.
Countrys have to look after their own economys and their own people first and foremost.
Their poiliticians have to take the decisions that they feel are appropriate for their Country and their people, as ours do for us - for good or ill of the tourist Industry and tourists in general. Cheap holidays are a bonus if you can get them.
Somebody has to pay for roads, infrastructures, medical facilities, schools etc Tourists are the first to moan about lack of local facilities on their two weeks abroad whereas residence have to live and work with them for 52 weeks a year.
Obvioulsy here are many people who go to Turkey because they loe the country but ther are eqaul numbers who go because it has alwasy been cheap. I hope tourism doens't suffer too much because of this.
i.e Africa, India etc
What hacks me off more is the ridiculously high prices of soft drinks. GGGRRRRRRRR
I will still visit Turkey as my reasons for going were never just about money and we have a holiday home that we love but prices will mean we will enjoy eating and drinking at home more.
Wife and i were in Olu Deniz end of September and it was the dearest place we have been in Turkey - as you say 18TL for 2 sunbeds and an umbrella -
We went AI to the Hotel Tropicana and when we saw the prices of food & drink in the resort we were glad we had.
Not my favourite place I'm afraid - stunning location but nothing Turkish about the place IMO.
Fethiye was nice and we spent a couple of days there - prices more realistic, more authentic and did not feel like we were beeing ripped off
It looks as though it is actually going to be more expensive to buy drinks in Turkey than in the UK, which is insane when you consider the relative average earnings. Aside from rocketing prices putting off many tourists from returning, presumably buying a beer is going to be something of a luxury for any Turk that isn't in a well paid job?
Religious politics via economics indeed...
JMK, the majority of Turks on the coastline are Muslim too. You'll also find that a large proportion of Turkish Muslims do indeed drink alcohol; hence their local drink, Raki. Not forgetting Efes and their local spirits and wines.
Of course, these higher taxes will mean higher prices for holidaymakers, and whilst some people don't drink alcohol (or are not meat-eaters) most people do enjoy a drink when on holiday, so of course it's going to have an effect on tourism. People need to remember, too, that restaurant/bar owners will spread the cost of the alcohol tax by simply increasing the cost of everything else, albeit by a small amount to make it less noticeable.
I think some people are still stuck in the notion that Turkey is cheap; well it was once - but it isn't now. And Oludeniz (from when I first visited in 2004) has always catered for the tourist - I don't remember ever seeing a Turkish restaurant there. However, there were some excellent restaurants there at one time; the White Dolphin (now moved) was fantastic, and the Secret Garden and Olive House were good little restaurants, even though they were not Turkish as such. To find real Turkish food you have to go into Fethiye Town, and when I lived there I had some fantastic meals in authentic Turkish restaurants - and they were inexpensive too. But your average holidaymaker probably wouldn't want to eat in those regularly; for one thing they have the expense and trouble of getting into Fethiye (which somewhat negates the cost-saving exercise) and some of the local restaurants are quite basic - not somewhere you'd particularly want to dine in when on holiday.
Idris Elba, that's how Kas should be pronounced in Turkish - Kash. I never found Kas to be extortionate at all. I think Kalkan is more expensive than Kas. Those rumours going around about middle-class, wealthy English types having lots of money and no street sense is total rubbish. In fact, it's often the case that the people who do have money spend it more carefully than those who don't! Wealthy people can be notoriously bad tippers, and they tend to study their bill meticulously to make sure they haven't been overcharged. So I'd say thay have a LOT of street sense.
JMK wrote:Well of course once you get away from the coastline the majority of Turks are Muslim and as such shouldn't drink so it won't affect many.
They may very well be Muslim but an awful lot of Turks do drink alcohol, not just on the resorts either
Prices have indeed risen steeply and I have noticed it most during the last 4 years. I mentioned Olu Deniz in particular as it was so much more noticeable than anywhere else. If next year they have to put prices up even more, I think the UK visitors they attract will start to vote with their feet and go elsewhere. I don't chose my holidays purely on cost and neither do we drink much so I will still visit Turkey but continue to go to smaller less commercialised resorts which don't rely so heavily on the British visitors. We have started to visit Egypt more often though and find it so much cheaper, just as interesting and offers good value for money. I think it could give Turkey a run for it's money in many ways.
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